In a previous post I asked, “Is Left 4 Dead 2 on its way out?” It seems to be alive and kicking becase there will be new Left 4 Dead DLC coming to all of you L4D fans. A new community campaign called Cold Stream will be released along with the three remaining Left 4 Dead 1 campaigns AFTER Portal 2 has been released in April. That puts the yet to be named DLC release date to the end of April or shortly there after.
I would see this upcoming DLC release as an indicator that L4D3 is not likely to be released in 2011. It is apparent Valve’s focus still remains on boosting the current Left 4 Dead 2 and not of Left 4 Dead 3.
I still think we are becoming more likely to see a L4D3 built on the latest Steam game engine.
What are you thoughts about the Left 4 Dead 1 campaigns being ported to L4D2? If the maps are true replicas of the originals, I see little value remaining in L4D1.
My question to you is, would you welcome L4D 3 if it had all or some of the previous maps, special infected, survivors or game modes from L4D1 and L4D2?
I’d have been much happer if L4D2 was just new maps and weapons. The new survivors are unremarkable. Melee weapons should only be a viable choice at the start of campaigns where firearms are scarce, and they shouldn’t be so effective against specials. The charger, jockey, and spitter are just hassle. Not only was L4D2 content a dissapointment, it came after valve promised new free content for L4D1, and all we got was the world’s worst 2-map campaign and survival mode in that whole time. And to answer your question, the cherry on the cake was giving L4D1 content to L4D2 players for free. I’m not even complaining about the let-down of promised free content not arriving anymore…. I’m complaining that the vibe and flow from the first game has been replaced with inferior style. The new infected were a clumsy decision, the new survivors are like cartoon characters… and soon the game will resemble Serious Sam. What I’m complaining about, is that we’re being forced for forget how great the game once was because L4D2 is REALLY pushing the prequel in to the sideline.
So… *deep breath* I don’t think it’s a question of “should they add old maps to new releases”… I think it’s a question of “should valve get their crap together”. If L4D3 is a legitimate improvement for gameplay, then I’d like to see the old maps in it. Otherwise, I very much wouldn’t because the better games will be obscured again. That’s what it comes down to for me.
Cheers. π
Who wha ??? No idea what u just said but ok : ……. Big words can’t understand annoying β-_-β
Calm, what do you mean you don’t understand what he said? Do you not speak English or something?
Anyway, Streaksy, I agree with you almost completely. I have to say I like the addition of the melee weapons, and the guns in the second game are much more fun to use than the ones in the first game, particularly the Combine and Semi-Auto Sniper Rifle. But, yeah, the characters in the second game are weak. The new special infected are just annoyances, not nearly as well thought out as the original specials. While I’m glad they’re releasing the first maps into the second game, because I think the second game is more technically polished than the first (the first game didn’t run as smoothly and the hit detection was pretty awful), I still miss the first game’s atmosphere and I really hope they get back to that for the third game.
Really guys? Ok I will sayt that the addition of daytime levels was a really bad idea because it ruined everything that left 4 dead stood for in the horror aspect, but the second game was a well thought out and coherent improvement.
With the addition of melee weapons and different guns, it not only allows people to personalize their fighting style, it also gives the chance for more content. Hordes in the first game went one of two ways, u were stuck in the open and sorrounded – your probably screwed
or you were all sitting in a corner, and almost no one took damage.
As for the new infected, they provide a new chance for the infected team to counter all the things that the survivors got, in the first game, u got one pull, one on site pin, and a boomer thats it. The jockey and charger definitely provide innovative ways to split the group, and the spitter stops them from camping in a corner. Sure the characters might seem a bit bland and cartoony at times, but come on. Valve made Team Fortress, theyre not going for the ultra realism…its fun, and its a valid improvement off the first games raw awesomeness.
I agree with most of what you say, but I like the original left 4 dead because it IS NOT cartoony and bland. I dislike TF for the being bland and cartoony. Left 4 Dead 2, with its little stupid musical notes (and yes, I shut off my music in game already) and nerfed tank make it a game far less to get into. Left 4 Dead gave me nightmares. Left 4 Dead 2 made me laugh. The genre has to take itself seriously, or it just becomes a lame farce.
All I can say is that I luv both games and cannot wait to see L4D3. Happy hunting.
I have never understood why people say the newer infect in 2 are annoying and as you say, “not well though out” What makes the 3 infected in Ld4 so much more amazing? How is a smoker not annoying? I think it’s great that they toned down the damage the infected do making planned and effective attacks essential. In the first one it is so easy to attack and you get so much damage from hunters. I think the Jockey can be very useful in a well planned attack.
One aspect i think should be removed in L4D3 is ‘death’ charging. I think it’s fine when they get incapped, but not instant deaths – maybe even if they just hang off the edge. I think L4D2 polished L4D, and i find the melee weapons fine. They should be powerful, otherwise everyone would just use the magnum. I think there should be less in a map though, so only maybe 2 teammates can use them (harder to kill a hoard).
The death charge is what makes the charger so effective. You can’t do them everywhere which makes it a special thing. Besides I think it would be ridiculous if I charged them, picking them up, and then I fell out the window and they were left holding on to the edge, or just downed.
i think left 4 dead 3 should take place at a milatery base and there deffanetly needs to be more specisl infected and more melee wepons and i deffanetly like the screamer idea it sounds so bad ass and all my friends think so to
it should take place at Dark Carnival because of the midnight riders easter egg in the passing
How about an infected ZOO, and just for that mission the special zombies could change, for example the tank could be an elephant, the charger a ryno or god knows what, it could be an interesting change, imagine that you are running and a marsupial jockey jumps at you XD, its just an idea
Thirded. this is a jokes idea. shud be in l4d3
I know that the newest DLC is probably going to be called Cold Stream. This is a GREAT indicator that L4D3 will come out because it shows that L4D is still a great game. I will assume that L4D3 would come out in 2012 so that it gives them enough time to make it a great game
Make the DLC!
Ey Raulex i loved your idea about the ZOO it would be AWESOME!!!
More than anything a brand new graphics engine.
I agree with Quade. Anybody who thinks L4D2 was a downstep from L4D is foolish. I’m tired of hearing QQ about daytime levels… It’s not nighttime all the time. And would YOU travel at night during a zombie apocalypse? No you fucking wouldn’t unless it was ABSOLUTELY necessary. (Side note about the Midnight Rider – I think people are seeming to forget that The Passing comes BEFORE Dark Carnival. So how could some random people have the Midnight Rider tour bus… it was them [maybe extras] going to the evac zone at the carnival.)
The melee weapons are a crock of shit. They hit too hard and have no fatigue on them. Like Matt said above… there should be limited melee weapons in each map, or make them like the chainsaw and eventually break. (Hell, even make tiered melee weapons [i.e. wooden bat -> aluminum bat] But I think they DEFINITELY need a fatigue on them. Not as fast as the regular melee, but maybe 10 more strikes or so. Pop adrenaline for more swings and shit.
I could go on and on and on about improvements that could be made to the game, if you guys are interested at all hit me up [email protected]
What? the character’s in the second actually had a background story, making it easier to pick the one you want. The second actually had a storyline, instead of having to go online to see how they got to each place. The three new infected kept out your tactics from the first, forcing you to learn the game. melee weapons get rare on higher difficulties to, so maybe you oughta get yourself out of easy and in to the real game….the gun choices build on it, two of everything now, and three assault rifles, four if you count the M60, so yeah, think before you act. the game has amazing detail, tearing of flesh with shots and blood constantly on the screen with every swing of your weapon, introducing new achievments and making you think. The first one only had stationary crescendos to, making the bridge finale insanely hard….and getting fuel cans is new tactic many probably didnt think about in the first one…so get up off your easy difficulty, switch to expert realism, do yourself a Leeroy Jenkins speed run, and enjoy the game and dont complain! π
ur rite dude i love this game and people need to grow some balls and get on realism expert man its not as hard as you think if ur good at the game
What they need to let you do is drive vehicles and create your own personal player, rather than choosing between the you do.
between the four you do, sorry
Left 4 Dead 3 should take place in Detroit, Michigan! Maybe some kind of map similar to no mercy but revamped to be like the city of Detroit
I think LFD3 should take place in a whole different style, a small desert town and having to make it across the sand in the dead of night. Having to make it through the desert and over the mountains to get to San Diego california and through the busy downtown just trying to get to a submarine and to a remote island that has no zombies there, or is there?
Same game mode same and more zombies, I like the breeder zombie and haggard, maybe some kind of desert animals wolves, snakes and crows.
i would welcome it…if it had new features…example, L4D1 DOESNT have spitters and chargers which leaves l4d1’s maps unique in gameplay when L4D2 has the new infected
l4d3 should be multiraced has to have a girl. or l4d1 survivors and l4d2 plus kieth. or should have a celebrity game where the zombies are justin bieber or rebecca black like the special infected are hated stars like justin bieber rebecca black fred from youtube and amy whinehouse she would give me the creeps. for characters should be brad pitt agelina jollie and bill oriely and of course who could we forget…………………………
BARACK OBAMA!!!!!
L4D3 needs two things.
1) new infected
2) GRENADES.
‘Nuff said.
they need to have atlest 2 girls in L4D3 that way the girls that play it (like me) wont have to be sad when the only girl is taken.
i think the new l4d3 should have keith,jimmy gibbs or all 4 midnight riders in it….and i think it should take place in a big city like new york , chicago or even detroit michigan…
jimmy gibs was turned into a zombie he spawns occasionally in the atrium
I wish that l4d3 comes out soon, cuz i am a big l4d fan i love l4d its the best game i hope the screamer will be in the game, and i hope that we would play midnightriders like they are in the carnival and they escape.And other campages is like new york and big cities. //Frreway π
ps. cmon do it fast i need to play l4d3
i have some character ideas! 1. a teenager who know all about zombies (even plays zombie video games) 2.a old guy (or girl) 3.a nurse (so she knows all about healing and stuff like that) 4. a cop (like from the show dead rising)
How about Four soldiers left behind trying to make it out of the city? O.o
I really hope L4D3 comes out, But Valve better put Keith in it, and at least one girl, the L4D’s always have a girl in it. quickly make L4D3 Valve! Everyone is waiting!
That’s great! π
That’s such a good idea, REMEMBER THAT ONE VALVE!
before flaming..i think no girls would be okay. Rochelle keeps jumping off buildings, walking into my line of fire, running right into spitter goo, scaring that witch on heavy rain, and lots more. She didnt have much of a butt for a black girl either. Other than that mnr sounds awesome!
Oh it is on Michael they need to have a girl just boys is lame but I have to admit Rochelle is dumb…but Zoey from one is awesome!
Ur right about always being a girl in it and if they were all males in l4d3 it would probly be sexist and lower qaulity
OMG YOU ROCK DUDE THEY SHOULD SOOOOOO HAVE Keith AND Ellis I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS FOREVER YOU ARE ONE OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is for Bronze
Valve, you need to take this entire thread into consitteration, great job guys and gals!
If there is anything, AAAAANYTHING, i want to see in Left 4 Dead 3… it has to be a create-your-own-Survivor system. We’ve seen the pre-made characters, and they’re all (well, most) a loveable bunch. But I think it is time to tell OUR story, how we the players survive through this epidemic. Make a survivor, drive him through the hordes, and fulfill your own missions to live another day, or atleast to the next saferoom. Anybody else think this is a good idea?
Maybe that should be a different game mode, Like several different campaigns that tell different stories of different people.
Even better, as you progress through the world, you can pick up clothing! Hats, jackets, knee pads, hell maybe some hockey goalie gear so you can take more damage.
I LOVE Left 4 Dead 1 AND 2 and all of the characters. I’m mad that so many people hate the L4D2 characters and/or the game, though I guess my opinion is a little biased because I played L4D2 before L4D1. Still, you’re complained about daytime levels. Really? I agree with part of what Tequila_Sunrise said, L4D2 was a bit more cartoony and comical. To be honest I like that sort of thing, but if they could add a bit more of the darkness that was in L4D1 that would be the perfect mix. I agree with Ellis(up there^)Characters like goofy Ellis or sarcastic Rochelle make the characters more likeable, or at least give them a bit more personality, so I think they did good there. The levels need to be a lot darker/scarier. Also-my cousin and I were talking about this-it might be interesting to see a playable kid character. No, not some badass 7-year-old, maybe 14-17 years old. I can already see why people would hate this idea, but it would be an interesting change. Hell, throw in a dog. I don’t know, but I can’t wait to see where they go with this. I’m just excited that there is a new one!
add cars. let one of the levels at least have a car in it. you could use it, it has limited gas, then if a horde is after you and you shoot the zombie in time or too many got on the vehicle, it slows down. so many things can be done with this medium.
My only complaint with L4D2 has always been the servers ability to run consistant games. It is much harder to get good connections for smooth gameplay, so much so a lot of my friends can’t play 2 and stick with 1.
I like all the changes in L4D2 verses L4D1. Altho you are still killing Zombies the 2 are totally different in game play. So L4D1 is dark and L4D2 is light and funny L4D3 could combine and satisfy. I, for one, do not like playing in complete darkness all the time but I do like the imposing build up knowing you are about to get frazzeled. Why not make a “real world” clock scenario where the sun rises and sets like it does in so many other games?
As for the Characters, I would like for us Xbox players to be able to use our Avatar. After all it is just a skin over.
I also play on the PC and would love to have the ability to do 2 things:
1. Incorporate the Map of the Week into Xbox platform
2. Be able to join a game with mix players from the PC and Xbox.
to everyone who says l4d2 sucks it is better than the original in 5 ways
1- new infected
2- characters have depth
3- melee weopons
4- karma charges
5- special norm. infected [haz-mat, mudmen clowns.]
on the subject of l4d3 the witches should have different costumes depending on location like u walk by a diner and hear a witch you look at her and see she is wearing a waitress outfit
Actually like most people o would prefer that you can make left 4 dead 3 with better new maps like in new york or Tokyo like the big cities because that would be the sickest game ever so I would like the campaigns to be changed and the characters too, because in l4d the characters were all rough and hardcore but in l4d2 the characters were ok… So it would be awesome if you can change the characters up for people that get bored and for different personalities. So it would be could if you can change the game up that way and make it more interesting for people that like change
If you want the same survivors make a campaign for the l4d1 characters, a campaign for the l4d2 characters and a campaign for the new and improved survivors so it get a little bit of everything with new maps. So at the end
Of the ge you make this huge map were all the survivors meet up so you can decide which surviving you want to be in the map. BUT the limit should still 4 players because if you add anymore to one campaign it makes t to simple and easy for the survivors and ruins the game title Left FOUR Dead
1 of the characters should be zoey and anothr being nick and then two new randoms. Possibly one of them the midnight riders and then another being a bar tender. You know, spice it up but keep it familiar.
Gayest Idea Ever… JK! Sounds Great, Especially Keeping Nick!
i would find the lfd2 bland and boring if it cantan the same stuff and nothing new so i say add new charicters guns bomb and infected
i would love to be able to have a character i design. have clothing hair eyes options and choice of different body types each with a different skill. like 1 could be very fast running, or have superb vision and good with guns. the possibilities are endless. i would like l4d3 be more about what caused this zombie crisis. have them travel to 24 different states, searching for clues and survivors.
i would truly love to see a huge prison that you search thru, A school that you comb thru looking for your daughter/son or nephew,ect. there should be more weapons,more places to explore and ways to hold more weapons.
i play l4d1 and l4d2 every day.
i loved the airport and swamp. there just needs to be longer and more things to do then run from 1 area to another.
I Would Love to see more of a story mode in left 4 dead. It is an amazing game itself. Left 4 Dead 3 should have all the characters from both l4d 1 and l4d 2 to play as except for Bill for obvious reasons. In L4D 3 you should also be able to play as the witch and have some new infected. I would love to see more of the things about L4D 1 in L4D 3 only because L4D 1 is better.
i agree with your idead there should be all the survivars in the next left 4 dead
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I think that it should have the reason were in this campaing like how im lfd2 they filled the car up with gas and got but had to stop and walk because of road block and if that was supposed to be your last sequeal then make it brand like where you would have to maket it to get to a place but you had to alert the horde make it brand like double the horde haha make some speacial infected like the tank make it stronger π and most important well to me could we have like 3 weapon pistols melee and another gun and also make the campaing a little bit longer
I think that also they should be like one person that your fimiliar with and then rest all stranger as the campaing goes on they get to know each other.
Looking for inspiration Valve?
GET SUM L4D MUSIC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSNttZECoiI
1. Original Survivors a must – Why? Cause we actually care about them! You guys need to up it in the story and character department. We also need that omnious, scary feel from the original L4D! A zombie apocalypse is not a casual, “everyday” chore to be dealt with, it’s a challenging, atmospherically engaging situation that presents ever dire situations. L4D3 has to avoid falling in the same pitfall as L4D2 – making Z day feel like a stroll in the park + a few guns.
2. Also, L4D3 should have a more non-linear storyline, where decisions made have repercussions later on and missions/story can have different endings.
Zoey,Eliis,Rochelle and Louis! starting off in…A Hospital!
I’ll only get if I can have the L4D1 characters. I absolutely hate the L4D2 characters (especially Ellis and Rochelle).
Just make sure to put zoey and keith in it and whoever.else they wanna put but definately.zoey. :D.shes my favorite rochelle sucked and got annoying
i just dont like the l4d2 characters, its my fucking opinion. as long as they make a l4d3, im happy
i really think you should make l4d3 pretty soon because l4d1 and 2 are just too easy because ive played them so much
They should make customisable survivors, this would be great as you can give the game a scence of origionality to the others plus it would be very interesting.
That would be soooo awesome…
Nope. I find it fun to have new maps, areas and characters to work with. I love Left 4 Dead one and two because of the differences that they have. The fact that the second one has melee weapons and the first one does not, that’s a plus. I like having a female to play as well as I am female and I appreciate having one to play with. Leaving me with all the Midnight Riders would be a bit weird lol. But I do not think that L4D3 needs to be overrun with maps from the first and second one, that would kill the point of releasing a third one period. Let it be it’s own game entirely.
why have the same stuff.That isn’t what all of the L4D fans are looking for.We want it a lot better than L4D2.We want new guns, new melees, new infected, new attractions(like boomer bile n L4d2),new maps,new things to jump on or go around,survivors to help you on the way, and more guns, and attachments or sights for certain guns.
P.S. – If you listen to comments this game will be bought by tons of people.So keep up the hard work and it’ll pay off with big $$$$$$$$!
If Valve don’t get off there ass and port the rest of the L4D1 maps into L4D2, then I will not be bothering with any more L4D’s as I am board of playing the same stuff with nothing but broken promises from Valve.
I have gone from Hardcore L4D to checking every now and then to see if the DLC has been done to not bothering with it at all. Sort it out valve.
Xbox 360 user!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi,I think it’S time to make a change for this game in today’s world and other games which will be released Farcry 3,Soldier of fortune 4.I wan to touch on something for weapons and enviromental features of these games.They should use voice/sound transfer machine for real sounds
of weapons in real life by using youtube(you see many weapon videos handguns,shotguns,smgs,machine guns,heavy machine guns,snipers,rocket launchers,handcannon),so they should add this feature into these games and environmet should be more realistic than ever and weapons too(we need to hear original sounds of each weapons for example try Smith Wesson model 629 on youtube and listen then record then transfer this sound into the game while making it (It depends on whΕch weapons you want to put into Left for dead 3)It will be glad to hear real sounds…
Campaign start of in a house watching tv then tells you about the apocalpsye each campaign different characters
i think you should take the two favourate charactors from L4D1 and L4D2 (Like Nick and Ellis from L4D2)and put them into L4D3.add some new special infected, having 1 map of an whole city making your way from top to bottom
plese make a l4d3 with new infeted and 8vs8 mode and have all the chatters from l4d1 and 2 and make the campin more long keep the fans looking forward to what round the corner and a lot of guns thats what we want more melle and guns and to be able to pick up a car as a tank and as a hunter clibe the walls like no other infected and more levels and maps and alot of common infected so like if u come round the corner have at least 3 horeds so players can just stright in to the fight thats all i have to so AND LOL I CANT SPELL
If L4D3 is going to get made then at least put on more Midnight Riders. In the Dark Carnival, Coach talks about the tape deck to start the horde and how there was lip singing.
i want to see the ability to drive a car, hunters climbwalls, another cool special infected would be a fling zombie that can alert zombies
i would like to be able to drive cars and maybe some new types of zombies and new main characters!!
well what i think is that we need another girl in l4d3 maybe a chinese girl we should be in the east in this area. we should drive cars and larger caliber guns maybe a flame thrower. also i think we should have a new infected just add a male witch! MAKE IT GOOD! π